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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2011, 04:25:14 PM »
Yeah, it was a bit lol to ban it in the United States. Many of the reasons behind it were pretty stupid too.

Remember that bill that would've made marijuana legal in the 'States? Yeah, all the potheads were too lazy to go out and vote :suicide:

Weed is one thing. You mean that's it?

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2011, 04:29:19 PM »
Weed is one thing. You mean that's it?

Are you trying to say that weed isn't enough?

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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2011, 04:35:34 PM »
Weed is one thing. You mean that's it?

Are you trying to say that weed isn't enough?

To be quite fucking honest, I don't see why weed isn't legal in the United States.
  • You can't overdose
  • Yeah, it's addicting, but so are cigarettes. Oh, and alcohol, and it's caused many more problems than cigarettes and marijuana ever have.
  • It won't kill you
  • It could get the shit taxed out of it, like cigarettes.

That's just one thing though. And that doesn't equate to less freedom, it's one simple issue. If anything it's not even noticeable.

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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2011, 04:36:39 PM »
That's just one thing though. And that doesn't equate to less freedom, it's one simple issue. If anything it's not even noticeable.

So? You still don't have the ~liberty~ to have it.

Also, shrooms.

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2011, 04:41:21 PM »
I was so damn sure you were high!

Also Sporkeh is just speaking about his needercountry of Amster D and all that.
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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2011, 04:52:12 PM »
I was so damn sure you were high!

Also Sporkeh is just speaking about his needercountry of Amster D and all that.

That's right, the country of Amsterdam.

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2011, 04:52:58 PM »
When you ride alone, you ride with Hitler!

I remember that poster, only because it was printed not too far away from here.

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2011, 05:45:32 PM »
Remember that bill that would've made marijuana legal in the 'States? Yeah, all the potheads were too lazy to go out and vote :suicide:

Yeah, the millions of dollars various lobbyists and religious groups spent constantly barraging the American sheeple with anti-marijuana propaganda had nothing to do with that, it was all part of a stereotype.

It's how the country was designed to run. Other things have been added over the years, it's been a damn long time since there's been what you could call "pure capitalism" anywhere.

Pure or not is utterly irrelevant to the conversation at hand. But no, keep harking back to the 'BUT THIS IS HOW IT WAS DESIGNED OMG' crap when things have changed dramatically since then. The very foundation is flawed. This was seen in the years following the ratification when the founding fathers realized that the pre-neutered and practically powerless federal government while letting the states roam free and do whatever the fuck they wanted was fucking retarded. No amount of shouting, "but we changed it 27 times over 200 years in extremely minor ways and always well behind the rest of the first world," will change the fact that the document is utterly outdated and the entire system in need of a desperate overhaul...and certainly not back to the 19th century.

What freedoms do you have in Europe that aren't present in
the United States?

I'm quite literally a gun-toting American. This is very clear in my arguments, despite me being a dirty pseudo-socialist. And just lol to the question itself, regardless of my nationality.

Sure.

AMERICA NUMBER ONE! USA! USA! USA!

  • Yeah, it's addicting [sic].

Everything has the power to be addicting. Marijuana, however, does not create an actual chemical dependance like, say, nicotene. So lol.

I remember that poster, only because it was printed not too far away from here.

Poster is pro-as-fuck, that's why.

Also, classy Godwin, Sporkeh.
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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2011, 06:17:24 PM »
the American sheeple

Amen.

in need of a desperate overhaul...and certainly not back to the 19th century.

Shortened the quote. What you say makes sense. I don't think socialism is the way to go though.

I'm quite literally a gun-toting American. This is very clear in my arguments, despite me being a dirty pseudo-socialist. And just lol to the question itself, regardless of my nationality.

What freedoms *are there in Europe


Everything has the power to be addicting. Marijuana, however, does not create an actual chemical dependance like, say, nicotene. So lol.

There's something in it that make the high more powerful in higher levels, but can't recall what it's called. And they crave that is what I've been told.

Yeah cigarettes are full of shit. Well not really feces, but if you look at some of the things in them, it might be safer t uh...uh.. quick, someone gimme a clever analogy!

Also, classy Godwin, Sporkeh.

Terrorists win.



Gonna start more sweat and tears (mostly from me here), but uhh anyone here massively against gun ownership?

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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2011, 06:29:24 PM »
Shortened the quote. What you say makes sense. I don't think socialism is the way to go though.

No, that's precisely why everything you've argued for is shit we abolished in the 19th/20th centuries because it's nothing but damaging to everyone but the top 1% or so.

What freedoms *are there in Europe

lol

There's something in it that make the high more powerful in higher levels, but can't recall what it's called. And they crave that is what I've been told.

You've been fed propaganda and/or poor/misinterpreted research. The long-term health effects of prolonged cannabis consumption are up for debate, as we haven't studied it anywhere near long enough on account of cultural taboos and that sort of crap, but the addictiveness of the drug is purely psychological. Not like most of the 'suspected' long-term health effects have a damn thing on alcohol/nicotine anyways, so heh.

And James, srsly, fix my user title/text. >:C
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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2011, 06:35:29 PM »
Gonna start more sweat and tears (mostly from me here), but uhh anyone here massively against gun ownership?

Can't say I like it at all a bit, no. I can see why some people would collect guns, but I would never, I get nervous holding airsoft guns. :(

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2011, 01:23:51 AM »
Yeah but weed.

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2011, 04:04:41 AM »
Yeah I'm against most people owning guns.

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« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2011, 04:07:59 AM »
Yeah I'm against most people owning guns.


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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2011, 05:54:27 AM »
The resistance has guns.

The government has mechanized infantry, bomber planes, and a well-equipped, fully trained army.

Thus I'll repeat myself: if the government truly wants you dead, you're dead.

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2011, 06:16:10 AM »
This is something I have never understood, when faced with "tyranny" people are often faced with options:

Deal with it and get on with life, taxes may be a problem

or

Spend lots of money on guns (lol tax yourself), face certain death and stir up a massive shit storm. 


Considering how in many cases armed resistance has lead to worsening conditions for the general populace, I really don't see the point in them.  Only in the very unlikely circumstance that you face death, poverty, etc then yeah taking up arms as a last resort may be a good idea; I do not understand why people think it's such a glamourous thing.

Do you really think "the right to bear arms" would let you overthrow the US Government if it taxes you too much?  They would probably kick your doors down and take your guns before you can even do anything, and besides as Spork points out small arms are entirely uneffective against a mechanized military.

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« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2011, 06:17:42 AM »
Do you really think "the right to bear arms" would let you overthrow the US Government if it taxes you too much?  They would probably kick your doors down and take your guns before you can even do anything, and besides as Spork points out small arms are entirely uneffective against a mechanized military.

But, you see, the Constitution...

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« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2011, 11:13:00 AM »
You're allowed to have them, doesn't mean they're necessarily for prepping to overthrow the gov.

Target shooting.

But yeah if the government is out to kill you, you're fucked. That's one area where the US doesn't fuck around.

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« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2011, 12:10:47 PM »
But yeah if the government is out to kill you, you're fucked. That's one area where the US doesn't fuck around.

Send in the Apaches!

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« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2011, 03:53:09 PM »
My bullshit is in two people's signatures.

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2011, 04:02:01 PM »
Pretending it's something to be actually proud of.

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« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2011, 04:13:55 PM »
Surely there's an achievement for that.

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« Reply #54 on: March 23, 2011, 04:58:32 PM »
Nah.

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #56 on: March 24, 2011, 05:59:05 AM »
Here's a bit of ironing for you...

In the 1980's democrat Charlie Wilson funds a massive operation (Cyclone) to smuggle captured soviet weapons into the hands of the Mujahideen during the Soviet-Afghan war in order to land a blow against the largely up-till-that-point unstoppable forces of the USSR. They are supplied with anti-aircraft rpgs and missile launchers, which are used to shoot down the Mi-24 helictopers which have been bombing Mujahideen base camps and civilian settlements serving their cause. The operation lands the Soviet army the damage that was proposed and the country's forces leave Afghanistan.

Today... in the same country and beyond, the Taliban are fighting the American troops with those same anti-aircraft weapons.

Moral of the story: US should keep out of things that aren't anything to do with them tbh.. just my little contribution :eng101:

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #57 on: March 24, 2011, 06:18:49 AM »
Trivia: the supplied Stinger missles cannot target Allied aircrafts, due to identification chips. Also its batteries are just about dead by now.

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2011, 06:46:49 AM »
Trivia: it's called IFF system, bitch

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Re: Politics 'n shit.
« Reply #59 on: March 24, 2011, 09:11:20 AM »
So much hate in here, needs more group sex tbh