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Title: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 23, 2008, 11:15:59 AM
Well, one year ago I've started making jff Xmas mod. I've nearly done one map but then everything got wrong in real life and eventually I had no time to continue. So, guys, wanna try making it? Like everybody doing stuff he want to include and maybe something will happen.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 23, 2008, 02:15:49 PM
Really cool idea. I'm in.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Burd! on November 23, 2008, 03:11:56 PM
ooo ooo! I smell a HLC community project!

I'll be hur to help on sprites or arm rigs.
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Post by: Greer on November 23, 2008, 03:21:47 PM
If there will be something easy-im in too!  :P though im newbie so i doubt i will do anythingx.x
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Imperial Wizard on November 23, 2008, 04:02:53 PM
If there will be something easy-im in too!  :P though im newbie so i doubt i will do anythingx.x

contact my on steam, maybe we can make a newbie map :P
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 23, 2008, 06:09:58 PM
So, that's what my map is. It obviously uses some c-s and they hunger textures so I wonder if this is legal. If not... erm, too bad, then I need to leech replacements from cgt.

This map is about secret-frozen-underground-Santa's-base.

Santa's "publicity" home. Looks pretty much like normal.
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10006.jpg)
But, if you'll go through the door masked as the picture, you'll get...
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10007.jpg)
there:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10008.jpg)
This is some kind of a throne hall. And that icy stalagmites are basically a buttons used to open hidden doors.
So, this is conference hall. I had some fun on posters here, but the main idea was to decorate this place as a classic "evil genius conference hall".
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10009.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10010.jpg)
Suit chamber (hope suit will be replaced with something. I planned adding magic staff here):
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10011.jpg)
Presents room:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10012.jpg)
And that is your sled (yes, I made this map for spirit 1.7, hope we will work on it, it has snow and stuff)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10013.jpg)
Secret (for casual people) entry:
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10014.jpg)
(http://i321.photobucket.com/albums/nn378/Shooter__Andy/xmas10015.jpg)

Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Gravewrecker on November 23, 2008, 06:50:44 PM
The sled is brush based ? Doesn't look good to be,  I guess a model would be the better choice here.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 23, 2008, 07:12:15 PM
Model won't be shiny :(
Besides, I made that map when barely had any experience in MS3D.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 23, 2008, 07:45:12 PM
That's a big load of stuff you have done, what exactly could I do in this?
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Gravewrecker on November 23, 2008, 07:59:28 PM
Model won't be shiny :(
Besides, I made that map when barely had any experience in MS3D.
Additive glow maybe ?  ::)
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: hraiser on November 24, 2008, 07:35:38 AM
Oh damn. Santa Swastika. Bitches better start running or else the fat man's gonna own you with his Coal Cannons. And he doesn't care who's been bad OR good....He'll shoot your ass down anyway cause he's fucking Santa. Bow before him.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 24, 2008, 10:25:20 AM
That's a big load of stuff you have done, what exactly could I do in this?
Anything. It's the community project, so that means it would be one big mess anyway :D
Additive glow maybe ?  ::)
That looks bad :(
Oh damn. Santa Swastika. Bitches better start running or else the fat man's gonna own you with his Coal Cannons. And he doesn't care who's been bad OR good....He'll shoot your ass down anyway cause he's fucking Santa. Bow before him.
Original image wasn't mine btw (just cropped it and skewed and stuff). Mine is with frozen throne :D


Anyway, guys, we need kind of storyline. Or just the main idea, what's this mod about.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: D3ads on November 24, 2008, 03:26:44 PM
Looks interesting! Alas I have no spare time to help you, good luck anyway.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 24, 2008, 04:11:50 PM
Story, hmm...

You are this drug addict and one day at your rehab hospital you find the drus in your bathroom, and, waiiit..

Okay, Yoo are teh grodan friemen and you infiltrate secret base under gman comand, you nothing know about it is SANTA base!

No..

You are some random guy who didn't get the presents he wanted as usual. And soon you discover that no-one did and no-one has, and you have to find the source of the evil propaganda that santa gives you nice presents, and eliminate santa, or something.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 24, 2008, 07:55:17 PM
Well, actuaaly I was thinking about some kind of "evil conspiracy", styled mostly in spy (James Bond) style, involving Santa as an evil genius, who did this stuff on purpose, but I thought about making HIM a protagonist.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 24, 2008, 08:39:04 PM
i was thinking of a hellish workshop with giant machines and an evil design, and soome "Crush Maim Kill" signs here and there where the  toy soldiers roll out, or something like that.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Nige111 on November 24, 2008, 09:12:36 PM
what's jff anyway
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Burd! on November 24, 2008, 09:26:37 PM
Just for fun :eng101:
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 25, 2008, 02:09:28 AM
i was thinking of a hellish workshop with giant machines and an evil design, and soome "Crush Maim Kill" signs here and there where the  toy soldiers roll out, or something like that.
Perfect.
Whoz da conzept artist 'ere, gits?
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 25, 2008, 05:44:59 PM
I am up to draw concepts if needed.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 25, 2008, 06:20:44 PM
I am up to draw concepts if needed.
Then go.
As I said before, ANY content is for the best now.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Simon on November 25, 2008, 06:27:01 PM
Who need a storyline if it's just for fun ?  :P
Can make a few model from scratch if needed
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 26, 2008, 08:13:18 AM
Santa, oh that boy.

First idea that came to mind when thinking of an evil santa.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 26, 2008, 08:31:06 AM
Who need a storyline if it's just for fun ?  :P
Can make a few model from scratch if needed
Of course, but we need to tie things up, and if they all will oppose each other...
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 26, 2008, 03:45:35 PM
Santa, oh that boy.

First idea that came to mind when thinking of an evil santa.
How about that?

Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 26, 2008, 04:21:58 PM
That's perfect, and mine awas just something before I had to go to school.

Also, he should have the Santastika-band around his arm, though.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Gravewrecker on November 26, 2008, 04:42:28 PM
Both concept arts are full of WIN !!
I think the goal of this mod is to have the player die of laughter  :D
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 26, 2008, 05:21:30 PM
Also, he should have the Santastika-band around his arm, though.
I'm not sure if I want to use this yet. It's kinda on the edge.

So, what about the storyline again?
We need to tie this things into one storyline: evil Santa, conspiracy(conspiracies are always funny), Christmas.
And what about minions and foes?
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 26, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
Santas little helpers.

They are grunts running about with toy guns, and if possible; lasers.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 26, 2008, 06:42:06 PM
Santas little helpers.

They are grunts running about with toy guns, and if possible; lasers.
It is JUST what I've done first in my mod. They were poorly reskinned and remodelled (pale skin, blonde, pointy ears and red-and-green outfit. And death animation, lol) hgrunts, so I hope somebody will make that.

Keep brainstorming.
I've done "santafying" red hats, need a concept on the result of... santafication  for them :)
Though, this idea is based on headcrabs too much, I think. So keep brainstorming.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 26, 2008, 10:23:18 PM
It drives people christmas-crazy and makes them want to take, and not give. Also, in this case it's about LIFE!

DUN DUDUDU DUNNNN BADAM!!!
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 28, 2008, 06:06:43 PM
Oookay, nobody doing anything, so I will put my ideas up then.

What if one day (apparently, one night, Christmas night) Santa wents to give presents as usual (for some weird evil reason, though) and then his sled got shot. He realizies that somebody wants to mess his plans up and he's trying to find this somebody...
Erm. Kinda short, uh?
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 28, 2008, 09:15:17 PM
You are part of a group of people who got an anonymous tip on that santa this year intendes to blow up every person in the world with bomb presents, and his sled gets shot down by a friend of yours with with a rifle.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 29, 2008, 08:18:25 AM
Hmm, I thought you would play as Santa. You know, that gives us WIDE range of weapons (how about freezing staff? or Frosty the Snowman? or even that santafizying hats?) and gags.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 29, 2008, 12:26:53 PM
That would be pretty damn cool! How about you have it both ways. You are santa, and imposter santa is having an evil plan, and now has control of all the little helpers.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 29, 2008, 01:20:51 PM
That would be pretty damn cool! How about you have it both ways. You are santa, and imposter santa is having an evil plan, and now has control of all the little helpers.
Perfect! This will tie up my ideas of evil-vicious-Santa and badass-but-good-as-action-movies-heroes-Santa!
So. That's how it will look like. Evil pseudo-Santa (evil clone, eh?) captured Santa last year when he was delivering presents. He was kept frozen in icy grotto for a year, then somebody (who?) rescues him. Now we must stop pseudo-Santa from making his mad plan real. We go to his (our) base but then we find out he already went on his pseudo-sled with his pseudo-presents. Then we pursue him around the world.
I have pseudo-Santa base map and icy grotto (wasn't sure how will I include this into storyline, now I know), so we need maps where we will appear to find pseudo-Santa.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Lamarr1208 on November 29, 2008, 09:16:14 PM
That would be pretty damn cool! How about you have it both ways. You are santa, and imposter santa is having an evil plan, and now has control of all the little helpers.
Perfect! This will tie up my ideas of evil-vicious-Santa and badass-but-good-as-action-movies-heroes-Santa!
So. That's how it will look like. Evil pseudo-Santa (evil clone, eh?) captured Santa last year when he was delivering presents. He was kept frozen in icy grotto for a year, then somebody (who?) rescues him. Now we must stop pseudo-Santa from making his mad plan real. We go to his (our) base but then we find out he already went on his pseudo-sled with his pseudo-presents. Then we pursue him around the world.
I have pseudo-Santa base map and icy grotto (wasn't sure how will I include this into storyline, now I know), so we need maps where we will appear to find pseudo-Santa.

"(who?)" How about him ? :neckbeard:
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 29, 2008, 10:05:22 PM
The pursuit gives us the possibility to do al sorts of maps, hell we could even make a mario castle with "Thanks santa, but evil santa is in another place!"
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Simon on November 29, 2008, 10:13:55 PM
"(who?)" How about him ? :neckbeard:

Ooooohhhhh, idea in my mind ... need to draw it .... brb
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 30, 2008, 06:25:52 AM
The pursuit gives us the possibility to do al sorts of maps, hell we could even make a mario castle with "Thanks santa, but evil santa is in another place!"
That was the ides. We can make all sorts of jokes and gags that way.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Greer on November 30, 2008, 06:56:34 AM
Maybe after that we could make some kind of multiplayer where Santa(powerfull guy with some good stuff)and evil clones minions trying to kill him(one player as Santa, others as minions).  ;)
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 30, 2008, 07:17:10 AM
I won't code that. If anyone can - go ahead.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Greer on November 30, 2008, 07:27:51 AM
Its just a suggestion anyway.
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Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 30, 2008, 09:06:53 AM
So, we need models of:
Sled and pseudo-sled
Santa helpers (something scientistesque, they were slaves for the pseudo-Santa)
Pseudo-Santa Helpers (angry, guns, kill destroy paindeathaaaaaargh)
Pseudo-Santa
And, one more thing, we have that kind of weather for the last two days. I want to make something like this in the outdoors maps.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Greer on November 30, 2008, 10:09:04 AM
I thought of idea...candy cane as pistol(ruger like)?Or something like that.(For Pseudo Helpers).
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 30, 2008, 11:33:05 AM
Quick sketch of pseudo-helper's face.
I think of their outfit as some mix of BDSM, Heavy Metal and Santa's Helpers attributes. They are sadistic raving psychos with wide range of firearms and everything that can cut and slice.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on November 30, 2008, 05:07:09 PM
Much Fallout lately?
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on November 30, 2008, 06:11:51 PM
Not really. More than a month ago last time. More like not much sleep.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on December 06, 2008, 07:50:41 PM
Pseudo-helper again. Got pseudo-Frosty (boss) scanned aswell, need to color him.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on December 07, 2008, 06:51:02 PM
Bah, if nobody's interested anymore, I'll just won't do anything too. Because I really got not much time now.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: James on December 08, 2008, 07:41:15 AM
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on December 08, 2008, 04:01:26 PM
I would map some shizzle if I got any good ideas.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on December 08, 2008, 07:05:58 PM
Mapping is fine, but we need models too. Anybody?

By the way, about ideas. I can offer you some:
- Underwater part of big iceberg with some kind of secret base (view of the ocean through the almost absolutely transparent ice...)
- North pole (pretty obvious, uh?) Dunno what could be here, maybe some kind of polar base ("Thing, the")
- Evil toys factory
- Your town (why not? It's a community project after all)

I'm going to make the Lenin's square from my birthplace, formerly secret and still closed Tomsk-7 "Seversk" town (some photos _here_ (http://www.tema.ru/travel/seversk/)). It has one of the biggest Lenin's statues in the world, btw (on those photos too). Thinking on how to use it.

Oh, and I can provide concepts and textures if you need them.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Gravewrecker on December 09, 2008, 02:58:27 PM
Mh, maybe you could make a Giant Lenin-Santa Statue ?  ;)
They've got similarities, now that I think about it. :D
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Simon on December 13, 2008, 08:22:46 PM
Pseudo-helper again. Got pseudo-Frosty (boss) scanned aswell, need to color him.
Love that art, if I gonna model and UV it, who's going to texture it ?
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Anton on December 14, 2008, 01:12:37 AM
I am really pretty shit at skinning, but I could try... Otherwise we might just have someone spice it up a bit. Although you will have to Map it!

Evil toys would be pretty fun. But, I am mostly into making retardedly detailed and/or architechturally interesting small spaces. And that factory is pretty much the opposite.
Title: Re: Xmas jff mod?
Post by: Shooter__Andy on December 14, 2008, 06:57:17 AM
Love that art, if I gonna model and UV it, who's going to texture it ?
I could give it a try.
Evil toys would be pretty fun. But, I am mostly into making retardedly detailed and/or architechturally interesting small spaces. And that factory is pretty much the opposite.
Maybe iceberg then?