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My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« on: June 18, 2012, 12:06:28 PM »
Hey guys, my PC died... and yeah. Butts.

Long story short I want to put together a new one, and I could really use some help / advice on this.
I don't need anything tremendously powerful, just something that will run current gen games / 3DSMax fine.


I'm considering getting one of these:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-270-OK&tool=3 - the cheap option
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-237-OK&groupid=43&catid=2040&subcat= - the less cheap but probably more sturdy option

Question is, which graphics card to get for one of these?  The cheap option is just ATI or Nvidia; whereas the 2nd option has a cheap ATI card vs a load of expensive stuff.
I really don't want to spend too much money either.


The alternative and very lazy option is this http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B007I8SZ36/ref=bt_atcg_img_0?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-2&pf_rd_r=8B996075B104408BA6A0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=302378767&pf_rd_i=428651031 but eh, HP are kind of balls.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, because I am trippin balls here ;_;
« Last Edit: June 18, 2012, 12:26:13 PM by Alex »

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 01:09:47 PM »
Get it custom built, get an Nvidia card. If you can, get it built locally so you can talk face to face to the guy that will be building it. Avoid Seagate hard drives.

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 02:06:28 PM »
Agreed with Thomas, Western Digital for your hard drive is fucking awesome, for the motherboard anything but MSI
And try to avoid Intel Core, it's sure is nice material but very expensive
What is your budget btw ?

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 02:16:52 PM »
I've had good luck with Gigabyte boards.

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 02:27:08 PM »
Get it custom built, get an Nvidia card. If you can, get it built locally so you can talk face to face to the guy that will be building it. Avoid Seagate hard drives.

I'm looking at pre-built custom machines... because I really have no idea what to do =[

Getting one made locally would certainly be nice, but the only place I could find nearby doesn't use Nvidia. Butts.

Agreed with Thomas, Western Digital for your hard drive is fucking awesome, for the motherboard anything but MSI
And try to avoid Intel Core, it's sure is nice material but very expensive
What is your budget btw ?
Duly noted; I'm looking to spend no more than 500.

I'm looking at this machine now http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/Fusion-450-gaming-pc/ which I can get a WD hard drive for (as Simon says they normally seem pretty good)

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2012, 02:38:10 PM »
I've had good luck with Gigabyte boards.
It's simply the best

Duly noted; I'm looking to spend no more than 500.
That may be a bit too small, what part of your old computer can you salvage ? You can save a lot on that

I'm looking at this machine now http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/Fusion-450-gaming-pc/ which I can get a WD hard drive for (as Simon says they normally seem pretty good)
That website looks pretty nice to me

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2012, 02:47:24 PM »
Duly noted; I'm looking to spend no more than 500.
That may be a bit too small, what part of your old computer can you salvage ? You can save a lot on that
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Hmm, well it's either the motherboard or the PSU which has died (which, from what I've read are the expensive parts). The weird thing is, I tried switching on my computer this morning and my Fuse Box tripped out... no noises or smells were made from the PC, it just refused to switch on after I fixed up the Fuse Box.  Everything else works fine, I tried switching cables, cleaning the interior... nothing happens.

I imagine the hardrive is still fine, other parts... I don't know :|

That website looks pretty nice to me
Yeah I'm thinking they'll be the place to go to.

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2012, 02:55:29 PM »
You mean CPU right ?
Anyway it sounds to me like the alimentation died, try to change that first, go for 600W just to be sure, a solid one like a Corsair, it's a lot of cable but you simply can't go wrong, and in case of doubt RTFM.
If your PC still won't boot, you can then change the motherboard/cpu, and you will have a new alim ready to deliver a lot of power for your new rig

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2012, 03:37:51 PM »
Would it be too hard to replace?  I guess I could simply put the wires into the new one where they were in the old one.

The thing is, I'm not sure if it's the PSU (power supply unit / alimentation) or the motherboard.  If it's the motherboard, there's no way I could replace that myself.
I guess the other option is to take my PC to a repair specialist, would that be a better idea?

Thanks for all the help so far Simon, it's really putting my mind at ease :F

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2012, 04:22:45 PM »
I've had a power supply go before, if that is the possible issue then I'd attempt to replace it first before getting too carried away. It's pretty easy, just note where the plugs on your old one went and copy it.

If it isn't, you'll probably need a new power supply anyway for a new build.

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2012, 04:50:21 PM »
I've had a power supply go before, if that is the possible issue then I'd attempt to replace it first before getting too carried away.
If Alex's computer is a prebuild one, the power supply was propbably the cheapest one, ence my guess

Would it be too hard to replace?  I guess I could simply put the wires into the new one where they were in the old one.
Don't even have to worry about that, the power plugs are specifics to their usage, the motherboard plug for exemple is the biggest one (in 2 pieces nowadays, don't worry both cable to plug are straped together), all the plugs have that plastic marquer, that forbid you to plug it the wrong way, there is pretty much zero chance to screw something up

If it's the motherboard, there's no way I could replace that myself.
Nah, same thing than for the power cables, everything is specific, you can't plug it the wrong way or the wrong thing, there are indication everywhere on the motherboard about what is what, and all the screws are the same, it's a bit more tricky than for the power supply and require a bit of organisation (for exemple put the screws in a plastic box for away and use a magnetise screwdriver), but honestly it's not that hard

I guess the other option is to take my PC to a repair specialist, would that be a better idea?
If you are too scare to do it yourself, yeah, but that's going to be expensive, very expensive

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2012, 04:53:49 PM »
Gigabyte boards are also nice since they are colour coded and have stuff written on the board, plus very helpful manuals and online support. Only thing is ensuring it's the right amount of pins for your CPU and what type of RAM it takes. Most if not all mobo's these days are running PCI-E for video cards. Haven't built a PC since my last one in 2008.

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2012, 05:56:07 PM »
If Alex's computer is a prebuild one, the power supply was propbably the cheapest one, ence my guess
Probably, it's a Corsair one.

Don't even have to worry about that, the power plugs are specifics to their usage, the motherboard plug for exemple is the biggest one (in 2 pieces nowadays, don't worry both cable to plug are straped together), all the plugs have that plastic marquer, that forbid you to plug it the wrong way, there is pretty much zero chance to screw something up
Gigabyte boards are also nice since they are colour coded and have stuff written on the board, plus very helpful manuals and online support. Only thing is ensuring it's the right amount of pins for your CPU and what type of RAM it takes. Most if not all mobo's these days are running PCI-E for video cards. Haven't built a PC since my last one in 2008.
This is reassuring to know! Guess it's not the nightmare I thought it would be.  Anyway, I think I'll look into replacing the power supply before anything else.

Thanks for all the help guys! I'll let you know how things turn out =]
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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2012, 09:45:25 AM »
If you have a laptop we can also give you a help on how to replace a motherboard or hardware. Video conference makes it easy. Just offering my suggestion, that way you won't have to run to the PC tech, which in my honest opinion, would be a waste of your time and money.

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That may be a bit too small, what part of your old computer can you salvage ? You can save a lot on that
Hmm, well it's either the motherboard or the PSU which has died (which, from what I've read are the expensive parts). The weird thing is, I tried switching on my computer this morning and my Fuse Box tripped out... no noises or smells were made from the PC, it just refused to switch on after I fixed up the Fuse Box.  Everything else works fine, I tried switching cables, cleaning the interior... nothing happens.

I imagine the hardrive is still fine, other parts... I don't know :|

It could be the receptacle that malfunctioned. If you have a tester you can plug it in to see if the power is running through the receptacle. If the tester tells you that it has power then it could be the hardware issue. If you have any spare power supply lying around you can try to test your motherboard using that spare one. If it runs then it's obvious the other PSU is dead. if it doesn't then you might have a dead motherboard.

If you don't have a spare PSU lying around then consider buying one and testing it out first like everyone else have mentioned.

If you suffer from power issue again try to turn off the switch and pull the plug before you go work on repairing the fusebox or whatever the issue that caused the power to go out. Usually when the power is restored it'll cause a power spike which can cause hardware damage and even hardware failure.

Hope everything else is intact and not fried by the power spike.  :(
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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2012, 01:36:36 PM »
Thanks for the protostar, fortunately I can now say that the problem has been fixed!  It was the powersupply unit that had gone, mercifully nothing else.  Phew.

I will duly note the need to unplug stuff before switching my fuse box back on; I was also recommended to get a new power spike protection plug thing - my current one is ancient and probably no longer provides protection.

Stuff fuses all the time in my house though, so I might as well unplug my computer whenever something fuses.


Seriously massive thanks to everyone who offered help and advice in this thread :)
Backing everything up like there's no tomorrow right now :P

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2012, 02:41:18 PM »
Ah so I was right !
Ok just kidding, was it that hard to change ?

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2012, 05:08:41 PM »
I wasn't the one doing it (quite glad actually :P) I'm just pleased it's done now =]

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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2012, 06:02:30 PM »
Glad to hear that it was only a power supply. Your computer is still alive after all. :)
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Re: My PC died, need help fixing up a new one
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2012, 08:03:32 PM »
Ah luck you it was just the PSU. I had one quit due to cat hair getting between the contacts and cooking on my mobo connection. Right before I installed RA3.